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Apr 5 08 3:20 PM
stand clear of the doors...
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Apr 16 08 4:40 PM
Bearing in mind the above.
Could a Mk 3 Genny Van supply HEP to the DeDetrichs?
Apr 16 08 5:15 PM
Apr 16 08 5:42 PM
A Mk3 van should work, the 201's HEP can power Mk3s as well but only 210 was ever tested with it. The Mk4 control car is also compatible with the DDs.
If the Mk3s are disposed of I personally won't ever forgive IÉ for it. Best coaches we ever had in this country.
Apr 16 08 6:28 PM
Apr 16 08 7:07 PM
Connaught Ranger wrote:
The 22ks (Irelands future) are nothing but a dangerous unproven shot in the dark!
Apr 16 08 8:49 PM
Apr 16 08 8:57 PM
GM 134 wrote:
At least they aren't going for scrap...!
However, I think this decision is a bit short sighted.
In my view IE seem to be going the same way as Virgin did with their Rancid Voyagers. Replace their (typically) 7x Mk3 coache sets with a 4 car unit with
more frequent services. In theory it should work, and spread the passenger numbers out a bit in the short term. However, as fuel prices become more expensive
and with more services on the lines then ever before passengers are going to be far more tempted to take the train and leave the car behind. And what
happens?? You need need more seats and in turn you need to lengthen the train. Now, with only so many 3 car units and only a handful of 6 car units floating
around I can see IE having a rolling stock shortage with-in the next few years if fuel prices continue to go they way they are going. Which will mean the
existing 3 car units will have to be strengthened to 6 car units and (possibly) the existing 6 car units to 9 car units.
I believe that BR did a survey and that after a 6 car DMU it becomes more economical to use a locomotive and coaches, which brings us back to square one,
right where we are now. Now if it gets to that stage IE will need to purchase some more intermediate car's for their Railcar fleet, that in turn will
take time to build and commission, and in the mean time, you are going to have trains jam-packed.
What I think IE should do is keep the best 4 sets of loco hauled Mk3's that they have and keep the best 4 sets of push-pull Mk3's that they have, and
spend a small amount of money on refurbishing them, and keeping them up to the standard of the 22k's, until such time as money can be availible to order
more cars. Otherwise once all the 22ks are in service and once all the Mk3's that were at the time "spare" have gone there will be nothing left
for "expanding" the existing passenger fleet, should the need arise.
Then, once the "new" cars are in order and commisioned then IE can do away with the remaining Mk3's.
Infact quite a few UK TOC's have to hire-in stock to cope with demand, at least they are in a position of strength where all the rolling stock is the
same guage, where as in Ireland the stock is a different guage, and it would seem quite a waste to "hire in" additional stock to cope with the
rising demad, while only a few short years ago they had perfect rolling stock that was fit for another 10+ years in service should the need to increase the
formation of the trains arise.
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