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ElTigre1 |
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Is there anything happening?
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Turbotim10 |
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Seeing the progress taking place on the WRC, the same thoughts were crossing my mind! Midleton is quite a short hop compaired with the WRC but it does seem to have stalled a bit. Any news re progress from our friends in the south?
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The oulfella |
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When I was down that way in September, I chanced upon a group of civil engineering contractors being given a guided tour of the line around Midleton. I presume it was part of the tendering process.
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MGH2 |
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Yes, as mentioned in a previous thread there was a @#%$-up with the original tender request for the groundwork and a new request had to be issued in August. AFAIK this tender has yet to be awarded.
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Burma Rd |
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Maybe I'm just cynical but could that f**k up in the tendering have been deliberate?
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Csalem |
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^I was thinking the same thing. IE seem to be very stretched at the moment with works taking place on the Maynooth line, Portarlington, Kildare Route Project, Portlaoise Depot and the Western Corridor. There does come a point when they have to say no more, until some of them are finished.
IE seem to want to do the Midleton line where they never seemed to have any interest in the WRC which appears to be a political project. If they had to choose one, I think IE would go with the Midleton line. |
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ElTigre1 |
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And the biggest programme of work has yet to come, i.e. the Interconnector, plus the electrification of the Maynooth, Balbriggan and Hazelhatch lines, as well as managing the dependencies with Metro North at Stephens Green.
You are right that the WRC is a political project, rather than one which will benefit the maximum number of customers. |
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finnyus |
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received this from midletonproject (at) irishrail.ie this morning RE Midleton Project:
The main civil engineering contract will begin in February 2008. Enabling works are on-going. Please note that it is expected that trains will be running to Midleton in early 2009. |
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ElTigre1 |
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More recycled publicity. The Midleton line was mentioned in the budget speech this evening, with a target date of 2009. Is this just another moving target?
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T14 444 |
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As with the reopenig to Pace (Navan) to opening date seems to slide ever further into the future. I fear we can expect "early 2009" to be pushed to "mid 2009" then "late 209" ........................
That said, this is one instance where I hope I am proven wrong and Midleton does open in early 2009. I am not open to bets though. |
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MGH2 |
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Quote: That's interesting. Looking at the eTenders site it would appear that this contract hasn't even been awarded yet. Mark |
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MidlandDeltic |
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The contract award notice on eTenders appear some time after teh award has been made, so just because it is not on there does not necessarily mean it has not been awarded.
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irishRail201 |
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Cabling work has started in Glounthaune so I've heard I must get down there soon... Aparently there's a digger too that's clearing the track bed...
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irishrailwaynews |
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From the Examiner, 21 December 2007
New rail line likely to keep fares low to encourage uptake By Sen ORiordan COMMUTERS can expect knockdown return fares of just over 5 when the 100 million Cork-Midleton railway line opens in 2009. Iarnrd ireann said yesterday that if the railway was opened tomorrow they envisaged a return fare between Cork and Midleton would be about 5.25. A single fare would be 3.55. A weekly return ticket could be snapped up for less than 20. Irish rail spokesman Barry Kenny said that the figure might be slightly higher due to inflation between today and the spring of 2009, when the first trains are expected to run. However, he emphasised that fares would be kept as low as possible to encourage take-up of the service. Mr Kenny also revealed that track laying for the project would begin next February. Preparations have been going very well and enabling works have finished. We expect trains to start running in the spring of 2009, he said. If Iarnrd ireann can keep the fares as low as it has promised then it will be a major boost for commuters compared to other forms of public transport. Taxi companies yesterday quoted The Irish Examiner return fares from Cork-Midleton of between 70 and 80. David Stanton, the Midleton-based TD, said the Iarnrd ireann price promise was extremely attractive, even compared to buses. I recently got a bus from Cork to Midleton and the single fare was around 5.50, the deputy said. Were all looking forward to the trains coming to East Cork. The Northern Relief Road is about to get under way in Midleton and its important that commuters can get to the railway stations easily, which will encourage them to take the train and free up the roads, Mr Stanton said. Mr Kenny said that large car parks would be developed adjacent to stations along the route, with hundreds of parking spaces provided at the new stations in Midleton, Carrigtwohill and Dunkettle. He said Iarnrd ireann was planning to introduce a half-hourly service during peak periods and hourly at off-peak times. However, Mr Kenny stressed that the service would be designed in such a way that frequency could be increased if it proved, as is likely, to be a popular mode of travel. |
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MGH2 |
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Quote: That may be so but it's not attractive when compared to fares in the Dublin area. The equivalent distance in Dublin (Connolly - Leixlip) has a single fare of 2.00 or 3.60 return. Mark |
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irishRail201 |
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Unfortunatly that's the way things are down here, increased fairs but for a mile longer than the Cobh line and those fairs are way up in the sky...
Even for a child travelling it costs E7.50 return into Cork ex.Mallow as opposed to E2.10 return to Maynooth for just a few miles shorter, I don't know but IE would really want to get their act together... |
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ElTigre1 |
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These fare structures are historical. Fares have been significant cheaper per mile within the areas covered by Dublin Bus and Cork City Bus Services. Once you go outside these areas, cost per mile is significantly higher.
It is quite cheap to get to Balbriggan by train and its covered by the Short Hop commuter rail tickets. It is significantly more expensive to go to Laytown only a few miles up the road. Bus fares to outer suburbs in Cork like Ballincollig, Blarney and Carrigaline are very expensive when compared to similar journeys in Dublin. This issue is probably stopping Bus Eireann extending the range of suburbs covered by Cork City Bus Services and integrating bus services between the older suburbs covered by Cork City Services and new suburbs / satellite towns, for example, I dont think it is possible to use a bus going to a satelite town to travel within the city. Train fares in the Cork suburban area covering Mallow to Cobh / Midleton will continue to be more expensive than comparative distances in the Dublin area until Irish Rail and Bus Eireann start charging fares per km. Such a move will either result in a loss in revenue or increased fares for some passengers, most likely passengers travelling from Dublin City Centre to places like Bray. |
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Burma Rd |
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100m to reopen Midleton seems a bit excessive. Its approx 6 miles of track and a couple of stations. The reopening Athenry-Ennis is also costing 100m except thats 36 miles of new railway. Thats 16.6m per mile to reopen midleton!!!!!!
They should never had let the consultants get involved in Midleton, their fees are probably half the cost of reopening! |
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ElTigre1 |
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I think that 100 million might include resignalling of Cobh line, additional stations between Cork and Glounthaune and other work not purely between Glounthaune. I would like to see a breakdown of costs.
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Burma Rd |
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Even with resignalling included and som new stations it seems very expensive.
Remember the cost of the first section of the WRC also includes upgrade of signalling and a new station between Ennis and Limerick. |
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Losty Dublin |
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There is some CPO's involved with the Midleton line and the areas concerned would have higher land costs than the WRC so it would push it up somewhat higher. As far as I am aware, the Cork-Cobh-Midleton resignalling is going to be CTC and not Mini CTC, so there again will be more costs.
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