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jhb171achill		#21	[-]
Posts: 513 (16/06/09 20:32:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Those who are on the RPSI's email bulletin mailing list will have received a detailed summary tonight of how the Society came to have the Hunslets, what has happened since, and what the Sociwety's thoughts are with regard to their future. Those not on that email list - join up! Here ends the party political broadcast... Incidentally, it may be of interest that about four years ago several DCDR members made a proposal to that society that Downpatrick would acquire 102 with a a view to operating it. the matter was debated at great length, and every detail was considered, with fair arguments being put by the pro- and anti- camps. In the end, though, the decision was taken not to proceed.
PeterJones003	Hunslets 101 and 102	#22	[-]
Posts: 31 (16/06/09 21:11:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	In the RPSI bulletin it states the following: "Being a registered museum, the RPSI has an acquisitions and disposals policy which dictates the proceedures to be followed when seeking to dispose of artefacts from the collection. This is why the Hunslets were advertised for sale in the museums journals a year or two ago, and why some societies were contacted direct, but not others which were not museums" Just to clarify matters, the ITG were amongst those societies who were NOT contacted, as we are not a registered museum. The ITG did submit an offer to purchase these locomotives when they were first put up for sale by Translink, but indicated that our preference was that 102 should go to the Ulster Folk & Transport Museum at Cultra first, which is a registered museum, and who also submitted a bid. Part of our proposal was to strip 101 of any remaining useable spares, and then offer the bodyshell as a static exhibit. If nobody then took it, then we would have scrapped it as well. Apart from being a source of a few spares, there was no prospect of this locomotive being restored. Incidentally, can the RPSI clarify as to whether they intend to dispose of 101, and possibly 102, at the same nominal sum of £ 10 + VAT that they paid Translink for them if another preservation group registers an interest in saving them? Peter Jones
Deeper Underground		#23	[-]
Posts: 102 (21/06/09 17:13:41) Full Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think 101 would go for a nominal sum, if anything, to anyone who wanted it and could afford the low-loader to take it.
3BG		#24	[-]
Posts: 62 (22/06/09 09:36:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Unless, of course, that someone actually wanted it for the scrap value! I suspect at this stage any proposal to preserve it in any form would be well received.
EMDpower		#25	[-]
Posts: 16 (22/06/09 10:09:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	PeterJones003 wrote: In the RPSI bulletin it states the following: "Being a registered museum, the RPSI has an acquisitions and disposals policy which dictates the proceedures to be followed when seeking to dispose of artefacts from the collection. This is why the Hunslets were advertised for sale in the museums journals a year or two ago, and why some societies were contacted direct, but not others which were not museums" Just to clarify matters, the ITG were amongst those societies who were NOT contacted, as we are not a registered museum. The ITG did submit an offer to purchase these locomotives when they were first put up for sale by Translink, but indicated that our preference was that 102 should go to the Ulster Folk & Transport Museum at Cultra first, which is a registered museum, and who also submitted a bid. Part of our proposal was to strip 101 of any remaining useable spares, and then offer the bodyshell as a static exhibit. If nobody then took it, then we would have scrapped it as well. Apart from being a source of a few spares, there was no prospect of this locomotive being restored. Incidentally, can the RPSI clarify as to whether they intend to dispose of 101, and possibly 102, at the same nominal sum of £ 10 + VAT that they paid Translink for them if another preservation group registers an interest in saving them? Peter Jones Peter May I ask if the ITG were to purchase 102 where would the locomotive be stored and would work be carried out to restore it? I would support any group who would restore the Hunslets. However with the ITG facing having to remove the locomotives currently stored at Inchicore works and the lack of space at Carrick on Suir I feel the Hunslet locomotives would be no more better off in ITG care than they currently are with the RPSI. Regards Norman
jhb171achill		#26	[-]
Posts: 521 (22/06/09 21:46:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The difficulty with restorinmg any loco is the amount of time, manpower and serious money needed - compared with its potential use and through use, its ability to financially sustain itself. Much has been written on this subject on these and other boards over the years. Suffice to say that 101 wouldn't tick too many boxes other than as a static exhibit - and even then, account would have to be taken of what 102's future is.
Retro Herbie		#27	[-]
Posts: 341 (22/06/09 23:08:37) Full Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	For those interested in 101 and 102 here's a few pics a took at YRW a few years ago modelshopbelfast.com - something very tasty's cooking!
Retro Herbie		#28	[-]
Posts: 342 (22/06/09 23:09:48) Full Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	meant to also ask, has anyone got pictures of them being moved from YR to Whitehead? modelshopbelfast.com - something very tasty's cooking!
MidlandDeltic		#29	[-]
Posts: 606 (23/06/09 17:19:19) Full Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	jhb171achill wrote: Those who are on the RPSI's email bulletin mailing list will have received a detailed summary tonight of how the Society came to have the Hunslets, what has happened since, and what the Sociwety's thoughts are with regard to their future. Those not on that email list - join up! Here ends the party political broadcast... Chicken and Egg there JHB - if my funding situation was different I might join up, IF I could see some public commitment to diesel preservation. Not knocking RSPI as such - I am aware of the commercial necessities of life, but I would not be particularly interested in working on, or travelling behind, steam. ITG would therefore be ahead in the joining list. The photo linked to does show the engine of 102 is running, which is good news. That being the case, what are the plans for it - use by a contractor on the Derry line upgrade?? Sean Last Edited By: MidlandDeltic 23/06/09 17:24:41. Edited 1 times.
jhb171achill		#30	[-]
Posts: 522 (23/06/09 22:16:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	That's actually the nub of the problem Midland - "if my (or anyone's?) funding was different..." Over the years several preservation schemes have come into being across Ireland, and others haven't. In some cases therefore, people have put money into something which through not happening has meant they have lost their money.

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